[Wikimediauk-l] Historic Prisons database

[John Levin]

Dear list,

A heads up that there is a new database of historic (c19th) English prisons:
https://www.prisonhistory.org/
This is a pretty canonical database - I can't think of anything like it
for any other place or period - with a wealth of detail, and much fine
supporting material.
Have been adding links to it on historic prisons pages, but obviously
can be used to create and enhance entries.

John

[Magnus Manske]

I am importing the list here:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/1505

Should be done in a few minutes...

Post by John Levin
Dear list,
https://www.prisonhistory.org/
This is a pretty canonical database - I can't think of anything like it
for any other place or period - with a wealth of detail, and much fine
supporting material.
Have been adding links to it on historic prisons pages, but obviously
can be used to create and enhance entries.
John
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[Andy Mabbett]

Post by Magnus Manske

Post by John Levin
A heads up that there is a new database of historic (c19th)

https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/1505

Is anyone writing a property proposal for this?

[Michael Peel]

Post by Andy Mabbett

Post by Magnus Manske

Post by John Levin
A heads up that there is a new database of historic (c19th)

https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/1505

Is anyone writing a property proposal for this?

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Prison_History_ID

Thanks,
Mike

[Richard Nevell]

That's a fascinating resource.

As I'm sure everyone on this list knows, castles are always relevant. So
one thing that occurs to me is that in some instances buildings will have
been converted into prisons (eg: Lancaster Castle). It might be worth
creating separate Wikidata items where that is the case and linking the
two, as otherwise you may have an inception date in the 1090s for a prison.
That's the approach being used for data from the Atlas of Hillforts, as
where a castles was built on a hillfort (eg: Caus Castle) you would end up
with two inception dates which is a bit messy.

Richard

Post by Michael Peel

Post by Andy Mabbett

Post by Magnus Manske
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/1505

Is anyone writing a property proposal for this?

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Prison_History_ID
Thanks,
Mike
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[John Levin]

Post by Magnus Manske
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/1505
Should be done in a few minutes...

If anyone is into matching these entries to wikidata entities, there's a
wikipedia page listing UK prisons, inc. historic & closed, at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisons_in_the_United_Kingdom
and of prison hulks (ships):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_prison_hulks

John